Published on December 13, 2004 By Steve Grenier In Blogging
Hey,

I have tried having this conversion on other forums but it always gets out of hand with people flaming eachother. I just want to have a conversation about the subject and hear peoples thoughts on it and maybe clear some rumors about it up. There are many people who think it's bad and that it's very bad for your lungs. Me being from Canada I smoke it regularly so I don't have a problem with it. The only factor I can see is that it is bad for the lungs as is any smoke to inhale. I was thinking for medical reasons, if they extracted the THC from inside the plant and simply put it in canisters and distrubute it to patients much like anesthesia. That way there is no lung damage from inhaling the smoke and the patients can be given certian dosages to scale rather than having to smoke up.

Say what you have to say. All opinions welcome.

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on Dec 16, 2004
I SEE THAT THERE ARE MANY DIFFERENT OPINIONS ON MARAJUANA. IT'S INTERESTING TO READ ABOUT THE OPINIONS OF OTHER INDIVIDUALS. I WOULD HAVE TO SAY THAT ABOUT HALF OF WHAT I'VE READ HERE IS NONESENSE. I PERSONALLY HAVE BEEN SMOKING FOR ABOUT 11 YEARS NOW AND DON'T PLAN ON STOPPING ANY TIME SOON, BUT MY HABIT HAS GONE FROM DAILY TO ABOUT TWICE A WEEK. IN THAT TIME I HAVE DEALT WITH ALL THE INS AND OUTS OF MARY JANE, SOME GOOD SOME BAD. THERE'S NO DOUBT IN MY MIND THAT IT HAS A NEGATIVE AFFECT ON PERSONAL HEALTH. THE OBVIOUS AFFECTS ARE MOSTLY RESPATORY, SHORT TERM MEMORY, AND OF COURSE THE MUNCHIES. I WORK OUT EVERY DAY, AND DO A LOT OF CARDIOVASCULAR TRAINING, AND I MUST SAY THAT IT TAKES TWICE AS MUCH EFFORT TO RUN A COUPLE MILES AS IT USED TOO. I REALIZE THAT IS PARTICALLY DO TO AGE BUT I KNOW THAT MOST OF IT'S FROM TOKIN. AS FAR AS THE MEMORY ISSUE GOES, WELL THATS ABOUT AS FAR AS IT GOES. I'VE BEEN RACING MOTOCROSS SINCE I WAS EIGHT YEARS OLD, AND TOMMOROW I WILL RIDE A LITTLE BIT BETTER THAN I DID TODAY. THAT'S HOW IT'S GONE SINCE I WAS EIGHT. AND YES, MOST OF MY SEATTIME I'VE BEEN STONED, I ONLY RIDE BETTER. CALL ME STUPID OR CRAZY BUT IT PUTS ME RIGHT WHERE I NEED TO BE. THE ONLY BAD THING ABOUT THAT IS MY LACK OF STORAGE SPACE FOR TROPHYS. I FEEL THE SAME WAY ABOUT DRIVING A CAR, DRINKING AND DRIVING, AND SMOKING AND DRIVING HAVE ABSOULTELY NOTHING IN COMMON. THE BIGGEST ISSUE WITH MARAJUANA IS THAT IT IS DEFINATLY A GATE WAY DRUG. YOU CAN SAY ITS NOT SO, BUT I'VE WITNESSED MANY OF MY PEERS GO THROUGH THAT INTREGING GATE, AND THATS THE LAST TIME I SAW THEM. I ALSO STEPPED IN, BUT I WAS FORTUNATE TO HAVE A FAMILY MEMBER THAT RECOGNIZED MY BEHAVIOR, I'LL JUST SAY THE GATE DIDN'T HIT ME IN THE ASS ON THE WAY OUT. BUT I'VE GOTTEN A GLIMPSE OF WHATS ON THE OTHER SIDE, AND IT WAS ENOUGH TO STAY WITH ME FOREVER. MARAJUANA IS VITAMIN C COMPARED TO OTHER STREET DRUGS. SO ALL IN ALL I WOULDN'T RECOMMEND MARAJUANA TO ANY ONE, AND IF YOU ALREADY SMOKE JUST LEAVE IT AT THAT. AND IF YOU ALREADY SMOKE AND HAVEN'T JUST LEFT IT AT THAT THEN I WISH YOU THE BEST OF LUCK.
on Dec 16, 2004
There's a button on the keyboard called 'Caps Lock'.....check it out....
on Dec 16, 2004
in uk its semi legal.. as long as you dont blow it in a policemans face you are not likly to be arrested.

i personally think its great, to me its a benign substance that i can use to relax without causing any problems. i been smoking it for about 20 years and its been fun. the only really bad thing about it is that it may make a non smoker into a smoker.. this was the case for me. so it can lead on to stronger things.... cigs!
on Dec 16, 2004
The drug companies do produce a product that can be used by patients which is extracted THC and it is caled Marinol, not sure of the spelling. Most patients find that the dose is far too high and it is much easier to regulate their doage intake by taking one more toke if needed. I have heard that most people get uncomfortably stoned and it can last from 12 to 18 hours so they prefer to smoke the drug.
on Dec 16, 2004
Sleeping Dragon, I never said i was right and everyone else is wrong. I was simply telling my story and my philosophy on life. "Are you smart enough to listen to people more than twice your age?" What a stupid thing to say. Age doesn't make a difference there have been many people older than me that were dead wrong. Look at Hitler, was he right? Should I have changed my views and listened to his, simply because of his age?

jaidaksghost try to post something useful, thousands of people die from stoned drivers every year? Show me the facts, until then thats useless, because I have heard and read the complete opposite. As for speaking about me personally leave that out stuff like that is what gets posts deleted.
on Dec 16, 2004
ok, you sound like you want to use logic. You are correct that you should not listen to someone just because they are older. But do you agree that someone twice your age has had close to twice the experiences? Wouldn't you agree that someone twice your age has had about twice as many discusssions and has seen about twice as many incidents; has had about two times the chances of seeing people in the hospital, two times the chance of seeing births and deaths. If they party, there is a pretty good chance that they have been to twice the number of parties? Don't you agree that a good percentage of people that are twice your age know at least a little bit more about life than you? If you agree to that (and I hope you do), and 80 to 90% of those people "say" that they believe that there are at least some negative results of smoking pot, isn't there a good chance that there is some truth to it? If there is some truth to it, shouldn't you act on it? It is often the case that people do not act on what they know to be true, though. So let me ask you: Do you smoke pot in spite of the negative consequences, or do you not believe these people that say there are negative consequences, or do you think that the positive mind altering affects outweigh the negative? You say that you are only presenting your opinion but your opinion must be based on something. Right? A smart guy like you wouldn't do something just because, right? If you want to smoke pot and claim your right to do so, that is one thing, but don't try to use reason to convince people that there are no adverse ramifications. People that are older than me generally know more than me. And the more you learn, the more you realize how much you don't know.
on Dec 16, 2004
There is no such thing as "Addiction". Let's say you eat vanilla ice cream all the time. You're not addicted, you just like it. Ok, now some fool decides you can have a good time with this, so he makes it illeagel. Pot was made illeagel because they couldn't find a way to catch Al Copone, so when alcohol was made illeagel, pot fell into the same catagory, and therefore became illeagel. Doctor's, Poloticians, and most people said they didn't see anything wrong with pot, but it got caught in the red tape. If pot was leagelized, the prisons and jails would almost be empty. I can't believe you can go to jail for smoking a joint. Think about it people. Peace. Hippie
on Dec 16, 2004
One other thing. If we spent as much money on highways, cities, schools, jobs, there would be no deficiet. There would be an overage.
on Dec 16, 2004
I promise, this is my last comment. When I started smoking pot, a nickle bag was $5. A quarter pound was $40. Also, it was cannibus sativa. What people smoke now is called cannibus inigo. Cannibus indigo will get you stoned, sleepy, and give you the munchies, but it does not get you high. I remember smoking Colombian Gold and laughing at everything. Panama Red was a great high. Redbud was killer. The thing about it is, there is no actual, real pot out there. Now it's skunk, and hydrophonic, or something like that, and people sell it for $500 an ounce. Damn I miss the '60's. Peace. Hippie

And remember what Bob Dylan said "Everybody Must Get Stoned"
on Dec 16, 2004
Noone has ever killed anyone just smoking. It was the alcohol. Liqour or beer. I'll bet on that.
on Dec 16, 2004
Hippie, I'm with you, I miss the 60's....... Woodstock, close to half a million people together for days and no violence, some of the greatest bands on stage.... oh the nostalgia!!
Now people try to kill each other over a basketball game!! I can only imagine what would happen if they tried to have that many people together in one place today.... they'd run out of body bags!!Oh well, at least we have the memories of a more pleasant time. Cheers to the 60s!!
on Dec 16, 2004
Columbian Gold..... I remember that and laughing our heads off listening to Cheech and Chong!
on Dec 16, 2004
Just made some whole wheat pasta with olive oil, 4 cloves of garlic, 1/2 sweet onion, a bit of salt and a boat load of parmesian cheese. Anyone hungry? I'm high on that aroma, right now.


LMAO!!

There is no such thing as "Addiction". Let's say you eat vanilla ice cream all the time. You're not addicted, you just like it. Ok, now some fool decides you can have a good time with this, so he makes it illeagel.


Now Hippie, this is UTTERLY wrong. There IS such a thing as addiction, and there's a certain condition that happens when people try to believe it's not happening...it's called denial.
on Dec 16, 2004
I guess I'll have to go again. I had a Doctor tell me that it was harder to get off Xanax than Heroin. I've known Heroin addicts, and if the sun was shining as bright as it could outside, and a Heroin addict told me the sun was shining, I would'nt believe him. Let me also refrase something about addiction. If you have whatever drug you're "addicted" to no problem. It's when people try to take it away. That's the problem. Like I said before, legalize it, and let the idiot's OD. Then the rest of us could just enjoy it. Peace. Hippie

Also, like I said, I've done every drug there is, and I just got tired of it and quit. No rehab, no anything, I just quit. I would do some acid, and say, okay, I'm high as hell what am I going to do now. So I QUIT.
on Dec 16, 2004
British Lung Foundation reported in 2002:

The amount of smoke taken into the lungs is two thirds larger if cannabis is being smoked. The smoke is also taken one third deeper into the lungs - and that smoke is held an average of four times longer before being exhaled.

"You inhale deeper and hold your breath with the smoke for longer before exhaling. This results in more poisonous carbon dioxide and tar entering into the lungs," says Helena Shovelton, BLF's chief executive.

Other points in the report include:

• Tar from cannabis cigarettes contains up to 50 per cent higher concentrations of carcinogens benzathracenes and benzpyrenes than tobacco smoke

• THC, the primary psychoactive ingredient of cannabis, decreases the function of immune system cells that help protect the lungs from infection

• The average cannabis cigarette smoked in the 1960s contained about 10 milligrams of tetrahydrocanabinol (THC), the primary psychoactive ingredient. Today, it may contain 150 mg.

"This means that the modern cannabis smoker may be exposed to greater doses of THC than in the 1960s or 1970s," says the report. "This in turn means that studies investigating the long-term effects of smoking cannabis have to be interpreted cautiously."

Finally, about toking and driving: In a 1990 report, the National Transportation Safety Board studied 182 fatal truck accidents. It found that just as many of the accidents were caused by drivers using marijuana as were caused by alcohol -- 12.5 percent in each case.
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