Your thoughts on Marijuana

Published on December 13, 2004 By Steve Grenier In Blogging

Hey,

I have tried having this conversion on other forums but it always gets out of hand with people flaming eachother. I just want to have a conversation about the subject and hear peoples thoughts on it and maybe clear some rumors about it up. There are many people who think it's bad and that it's very bad for your lungs. Me being from Canada I smoke it regularly so I don't have a problem with it. The only factor I can see is that it is bad for the lungs as is any smoke to inhale. I was thinking for medical reasons, if they extracted the THC from inside the plant and simply put it in canisters and distrubute it to patients much like anesthesia. That way there is no lung damage from inhaling the smoke and the patients can be given certian dosages to scale rather than having to smoke up.

Say what you have to say. All opinions welcome.

Comments (Page 7)

Steve Grenier

on Dec 15, 2004

Maybe they will realize it one day Hippie. Until then I guess we will have to live with them. They like pulling facts and research studies information when in fact the drug is actually much different and they will find that out in the next 10-20 years when they see the long term effects.

Just look at the 70's and 80's they said marijuana caused murder and made people crazy and go on killing rampages. And people believed that was the truth.

Also if this is the end or ending of this thread I want to thank everyone who posted and shared their opinions even if they were attacking certain people.

rhoss1

on Dec 15, 2004

I have some red-hair stuff that smells like a skunk!

No Thoughts, Just don`t see anything wrong with it myself. And its Good For You!

KarmaGirl

on Dec 15, 2004

I, personally, don't know why we need to have any recreational drugs.

If people spent time fixing their problems instead of escaping them, then they wouldn't "need" drugs.

I have an Aunt who is in her 40's and smokes pot. She seems normal. However, she always questions how I get so many things done in my life while she has remained the same for the past 10+ years. It's simple- I function on a clear mind. My relaxation includes a cup of hot chocolate and a cuddle on the couch with my family. I don't need drugs to escape anything. My "high" comes from life and what I can accomplish in it.

I don't think it needs to be legal. Yes, alcohol is legal, but driving while intoxicated is not. Saying "well, if it's legal, than this should be" is just adding to an underlying problem. I don't think that it even needs to be legal for medical use. There are a lot more medications out there that do not have the health effects of pot smoking that are already used. A lot of "pain management" comes from a mental state- smoking pot is not going to help that. (And, that is a view point coming from somebody who deals with daily chronic pain since the age of 13).

And, for people who question this on the forums- it's in the "general" section. You can also get to it from JoeUser.com.

And, Steve, with that said- you need to control the personal attacks on here. Since this is your blog, you can delete the personal attacks. Disagreement is fine, but personal attacks will not be tolerated.

paxx

on Dec 15, 2004

Note that despite my previous posts, I have nothing against people smoking pot. I have done so myself back in my late teens, like most teens do (I don't know the stats in the US, but in Canada more than 60% of kids under 18 have tried pot at least once). Also, I don't think that pot is much worse than alcohol is either. And finally, I am one of those who believe it should be legalised.
But... I also think it's wrong to think that it's harmless, that it's not addictive and that driving while it's influence is OK. And I think the same about alcohol: it's not harmless, it's addictive and driving under its influence is not OK.
Note also that I have stopped the consumption of any alcohol as well. Not for health reason, just because, as an adult I've learned that I enjoy to keep 100% control of my own mind. I've learned to hate not thinking clearly, caused by both alcohol and/or pot.

Steve Grenier

on Dec 15, 2004

I hadn't checked this from the Joe User site. I can see that I can delete posts. Thanks for letting me know.

paxx

on Dec 15, 2004

Note also about Canada that it's a CRIMINAL offense to drive while impaired, either by alcohol or by any drug, including pot. If you get caught, not only will you get a high fine and get your license temporarely removed (1 year at the first offense I believe), but you will get a criminal record and you may even have to serve some time in jail.
Driving while under the influence of drugs or alcohol is dangerous and can get you in serious trouble.

HG_Eliminator

on Dec 15, 2004

my post was not intended as a personal attack..my comment about "being young and invincible" was based on ....."I find whenever I am high and driving it just allows me to have a bigger love for driving and I enjoy it more because I am paying more attention to it. Now I can't speak for everyone and that isn't my intention to come off that way, but I am saying that for me it doesn't make driving harder it makes it easier." "It's one thing to say it's bad but actually saying it's makes a big difference when driving is another. If you have actually ever done it you can see that it's not that harmful when driving on the road."Like I said before. Some people can't drive while under it, and some people can." those statements would imply that you feel you are one of those who CAN....IMO those statements would be associated with youth and the feeling "it cant happen to me".

My comment of "if your that arrogant or stupid" was my generalized opinion about any one who thinks driving under ANY type or amount of influence is safe...it was not meant as a personal attack ...

here you say..."As far as me driving quite a lot, but most of it I am sober. I don't often drive while high. You also can say everything I am saying is pointless but that is your opinion I might make a difference in someones life and thats enough for me, maybe not for you"...... well ya hit one person while driving under the influence, and yes you will have made a differance in someones life...

i am a professional truck driver (i quit "smoken up" long before i started driving)...and i would never risk the chance of driving while impared. even the slightest risk is to great..(a driver buzzed up in 114,000 lbs of steel is a scary thought)...."i place yours and your friends/familys lives higher than my need to relax....and heres a thought....since pot is not regulated and tested for consistancy/quality you have to trust the fact that the bud you just bought has not been tainted with other stuff...IMO its just not worth the risk to others......

like i said i am a former "smoker" and im not talking the occasional hit here and there ...so my opinions are not from a lack of experience...

Steve Grenier

on Dec 15, 2004

Paxx your sources for the canadian legal system are wrong. I have many friends who have been pulled over my cops and I have been with some of them while we were high. The cops didn't do anything related to suspension of their licence or anything like the such. They simply took the marijuana and the bongs and such. So as far as that goes it doesn't happen to everyone. Maybe in some parts of Canada it is like that. But in Toronto it's not like that at all.

Abhi (Anonymous User)

on Dec 15, 2004

"Victorian Police" - This is in Australia. In Australia, for the whole country we have about 500 road deaths a year.

I come from India (Bangalore). In just our city we have atleast 1000 road deaths.

So, I am immune to people driving like mad drunks.
About marijuana, drinking, smoking, drugs etc...
come on guys and gals, every one knows that it will inhibit brain function.

So, smoke up, drink up, do what ever you want (including speaking on the mobile when driving) and kill yourselves on the road and make this world a better place to live in!!!!

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becca (Anonymous User)

on Dec 15, 2004

well i will admit i am young and all so some people may think my opinion is just one of a pothead teenager and at points that is true but i am goin to tell you a story.the point of telling you this story may ease your thoughts on tokin and drivin.when i was 12 my brother got in an accident the night before september 11.The reason for this accident was because he had taken some pills earlier and had gotten entoxicated with alchol.He had smoke weed as well that day and also gotten behind the wheel but he thought he was going fast when in reality he was goin like 30mph lol!i found that funny i was laughin my ass off in the car.The point is to make you realize so drugs cause the effect of hyperactivity in the body but other drugs cause the effect of thinkin your goin real fast but your not.MARIJUANA is the most unharmful drug because of which it accualy causes your brain to use more thought rather than some other drugs that causes your brain to slow down and also do things so spontainious that you at the moment do not realize yourself what is happening.I am a "pothead" and my teachers will even tell you i am one of the most briliant student they have had.I get high on a regular basis and i even have posters of it in my room.I am also studying pharmicuticals and the effects of drugs on the brain.The drugs that i am studying are not only prescription drugs but also street and other adrugs of that nature.I am only 16 and i know so much about this subject that is why it intregees me so.If you would care to talk to me more i have an aol instant messanger screen name that is babybecca1116 and an e-mail address babybecca1116@netscape.net i would love to hear all your thoughts and opinions

i love marijuana

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Tombalaci

on Dec 15, 2004

Maturity does not come with age, unfortunately...

I am all for legalizing these drugs but then don't come dipping into my tax dollars when you are in need of rehab or you are so fuked up physically that you need someone to nurse you.

I think all smokers, alcoholics, and drug addicts (other than those that get it from childhood, being born from a drugger mom) should not be provided with any kind of insurance benefits that "normal" people use so that the others are not forced to pay for the weakness of the addicts. The state can tax the drugs and use that tax money to run rehab programs but not a penny more than that. Call me a ruthless guy but I believe in Darwinism. The weak should be eliminated...

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WebGizmos

on Dec 15, 2004

#87 by Citizen The Journeyman
Wednesday, December 15, 2004
In for a penny - Webgizmo's logic as it was presented was fatally flawed.

The I know a man argument...... - well in the UK today a woman was in the paper who died aged 105 after a lifetime smoking without ill effect. By his logic we could all go out and smoke without worrying.

Well thats just silly. I was simply pointing out how ridiculous the comment that..."chronic users are very unreliable usually reckless by nature, and cause a social/economic burden to modernized industrial societies"...was. It wasn't an argument nor was I giving anyone any justification to take any action effecting their life...just an observation. And you certainly don't need to smoke pot to be a burden on society.

Just because I choose to do something does not mean you should go out and do it as well...and since everything effects everyone differently I'm not going to deny myself certain experiences in life simply because you decided it was bad...for you. I may find quite the opposite.

We are told how great his friend does with drugs - of course we will never know how much more he may have done without them.

I think he's pretty happy doing what he does...he followed and realized his dreams. How many people really get to do that?

To argue that poor Government choices on the international stage justifies an individuals right to choose which laws he will and will not obey is a tad spurious also.

Poor government choices? I think it's way more than that...giving weapons to terrorists isn't a poor choice...it's insane!

Just because a law is made it doesn't make it right, and that does not mean everyone should go out and start breaking every law on the books. But it's your responsibility as a citizen/human being to challenge any law that is unjust. Especially if it effects your life directly. So I suppose if you can get a drug from another country that can save your life, which is deemd illegal to do, you will choose to follow that law and possibly die because someone made that a law? Not me! I think for myself. I'm responsible for my life...not the government. I choose to challenge authority.

"It is NOT the function of our government to keep the citizen from falling into error; It IS the function of the citizen to keep the governemt from falling into error. (U.S. Supreme Court in American Communications Association v. Douds, 389 U.S. 382, 442)

(Sorry Webgizmo, nothing personal - that darn frog of yours made a couple of leaps too many)

Not a problem. I don't expect everyone to understand.

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Alternate Setting

on Dec 15, 2004

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ICEMAN8386 (Anonymous User)

on Dec 15, 2004

I THINK IT OUGHT TO BE LAGAL LIKE IN AMSTERDAM I HAVE SMOKED IT FOR 25 YRS AND I'M JUST A EVERY DAY GUY WHO WORKS AND TAKES CARE OF HIS FAMILY AND I PRETTY MUCH SMOKE IT LIKE CIGARETTES. IT GROWS WILD AND HAS BEEN AROUND FOR CENTURIES AND CULTIVATED LIKE CORN OR WHEAT IS TODAY IT ALSO HAS A LOT OF MEDICINAL QUALITIES ITS A NATURAL SEDATIVE IF IT WAS LEGAL MAYBE WE WOULD'NT HAVE THE PROBLEMS WE HAVE WITH METHAMPHETAMINE USERS ITS HAS GOTTEN TO WHERE EVERYTHING IS A DRUG THOUGH EVEN PRESIDENT WASHINGTON SMOKED MARIJUANA AND HAD HIS SLAVES CULTIVATE IT OUR OWN VERY FIRST PRESIDENT OF COURSE CLINTON DID'NT INHALE SO HE SAYS IT HAS NO LONG TERM EFFECTS THAT I HAVE EXPERIENCED AND I'VE RESEARCHED IT EXTENSIVELY THAN YOU LEGALIZE IN 2005 HAPPY TRAILS

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Jafo

on Dec 15, 2004

ICEMAN8386 (Anonymous User)

Please don't 'shout', thanks....

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